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Author Topic: Christianity and martial arts, is there a conflict?  (Read 2143 times)
Ricky Adams
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« on: October 22, 2006, 08:03:14 PM »

I have been studying martial arts for over 34 years, I have been a Christian for 20 years.  In the beginning there were several things I had to come to terms with. One for example, was statues of Budha and dragons in the dojo.  These clearly fall under the "Idol" category and i felt I should remove them and so I did. Bowing was another,  I still use the informal 'Tachi Ni Rei" (standing bow) at the beginning and end of class. I also use Otagai Ni Rei (bowing to partner) before and afte wroking with someone. I do not use the Seiza (Kneeling bow) or Shomen Ni Rei (abowing to shrine0 as I feel these are clearly paganistic and could be considered "worship"

I considered puting a picture of Jesus in the front of the dojo to do Shomen Ni Rei (bowing to deity) but this goes against "thou shall not make any graven images.

As far as, practicing a martial art and that practice being in conflict with my faith. I do not feel practicing something that helps me "discipline" myself and helps give me control over my physical and mental faculties has any conflict with christianity or the principles as taught by Jesus. 

I know there are those individuals in martial arts who call themselves God, or suprem grand master.....this sets them up to be seen as infalable.....

I know of one individual who actually has his students carry him on a thrown into his tournaments and everyone is required to bow to him before they compete in kata, kobudo, kumite.... sounds like Nebechanezer and his statue. This is where martial Arts and christianity have a conflict.......
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2006, 09:36:51 PM »

   Boy we could write a book on this one.  Once we have settled that there is no conflict in a Christian practicing self defense (King David was a warrior), we must then come to grips with another aspect of martial arts practice.  Since this forum carries the heading of "Internal Arts" lets address the issue of ki or chi.  Little consideration need be paid to the subject if you practice a modern or so called "reality based system”.  But if you are involved in a traditional system as I am the chance of having to deal with the subject increases greatly.  On this topic I can only render my opinion.  The existence of chi has not been conclusively and scientifically proven.  However I cannot dismiss the possibility of its existence,  If it does exist I see two ways to deal with it.  If it is a spiritual force that must be developed through any number of eastern meditative practices I have no desire to get involved with it.  My understanding of spiritual matters is grounded in my faith and Jesus never discussed the subject.  If on the other hand it is the electrical charges that travel our neurological system to spark movement in the muscles and the rest of our system, then we are dealing with something that is a part of the physical being that we were created as.  In this case eastern practices are not required. 
I tend to be comfortable with the latter explanation and so development is possible without an understanding of oriental philosophy.  It is possible that the word chi or ki is simply an ancient concept to explain a natural occurrence.  Let me give an example of this oriental way of teaching and explaining a concept.  We often stress sinking the elbows and striking by driving the punch with the elbow.  We also talk of the elbows being heavy and the energy being in the elbow.  This language is an excellent way to focus our attention to a certain concept in as few words as possible.  We know that the elbow is a joint and so it cannot drive a punch or be heavy or sink on its own.  But by focusing on the elbow we will naturally be required to lower the shoulders by activating the latisimus dorsi.  Driving the punch with the elbow requires contraction of the front deltoid as the lats maintain the proper tension.  The pectoral muscles are also engaged to bring the elbow in as it travels forward driving the fist ahead of it.  By focusing on the elbow the correct muscle groups can be utilized.  So while the idea of elbow energy sounds wonderfully mysterious, it in fact is a very simple and practical way to help us focus our attention on the proper mechanics of a technique.
Over a lifetime of practice, focusing on proper posture, mechanics and relaxation, incredible power can be achieved.  Years of practice can lead to complete relaxation of all muscles not involved in execution of the technique.  This allows for increased speed as well as proper follow through.  The muscles that act as a brake in beginners are not engaged in the advanced practitioner.  Proper posture allows support of the technique to be structural instead of muscular which promotes greater relaxation.  The goal is to have the technique originate by pressing the foot against the ground which creates the driving force.  Once the technique or strike makes contact it is supported by proper posture and the reaction force is focused back to the ground. If you add to these concepts proper mental focus, a synergistic effect can be achieved.  The result is greater than the sum of the individual parts.   Striking appears nearly effortless.   
   The above treatment of the subject allows me to continue to develop what God has given me without compromising my faith.  I would enjoy hearing from others on this subject. 

Jack   
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2006, 08:52:38 PM »

Thank you Jack for a very thought provoking post I agree with you..... I believe !!!!!
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